4 Reasons Why Disney's Frozen Is Not Worth the Hype

Updated on July 1, 2016
Elsa, Prince Hans, Anna, Kristoff; Frozen, 2013.
Elsa, Prince Hans, Anna, Kristoff; Frozen, 2013. | Source

Although the film was a box office hit as well as the highest-grossing original animated movie of all time($398.4M), Disney's Frozen, has unforgiveable pitfalls that children of this generation cannot truly appreciate.

I could not help but notice all of the shortcomings of the film, and those shortcomings seemed to outshine the positives. Am I too grown up for Disney movies? Or did Frozen simply fall too short for the standards and expectations of those accustomed to the classics?

Of course I cannot help but be biased, considering I grew up in the '90s when Disney was in its prime; however, I am not difficult to please when it comes to anything Walt Disney, but Frozen was the first one that I was content with seeing only once.

The 4 Pivotal Shortcomings of Frozen:

#1: Lack of Background Information

Every Disney movie has a strong introduction that foreshadows the premise of the main plot. It foretells possible obstacles the protagonists might endure, who the protagonist is and why he/she is important, and gives us a summary of who the characters ultimately are (or going to become).

Beauty and the Beast's introduction introduces the prince who is turned into a beast because of his selfishness while also foreshadowing the premise that the spell must be broken by true love before the last petal falls.

The Lion King introduces the concept of the "circle of life" while Mufasa later goes on to tell Simba the ways of the kingdom, and how one day he will be king, too. This concept comes full circle in the end when Simba overcomes his deceitful uncle, Scar, while proceeding to majestically climb Pride Rock. Tangled efficiently ties together 18 years of details within the introduction: how Rapunzel was a princess, how she was stolen and why, and the importance of her hair. Frozen on the other hand, had an introduction that fell extremely short. Although we get some details, they are vague, choppy, and irrelevant for the most part. It fails to answer the most critical aspects that the audience needs answered.

Why is Elsa cursed? Did her parents sell their souls to the devil? Will she go on some crazy journey to find an explanation and perhaps, a cure? Who is Elsa besides being the main character? What makes her so important? Why should we care about her?

Before seeing the film, I thought that Elsa was the main character throughout the whole film, but the film is more about Anna and her juvenile fantasies as opposed to anything relevant and unique.

People seem to care more about recreating the "Elsa" braid, singing songs that don't fit the plot, and Olaf the snowman, than truly remembering (let alone, understanding) what the story was about.

Which one is supposed to be the primary antagonist?

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 Duke of Weselton and his sidekicks; Frozen, 2013.Prince Hans; Frozen, 2013.The pack of wolves; Frozen, 2013
 Duke of Weselton and his sidekicks; Frozen, 2013.
Duke of Weselton and his sidekicks; Frozen, 2013. | Source
Prince Hans; Frozen, 2013.
Prince Hans; Frozen, 2013. | Source
The pack of wolves; Frozen, 2013
The pack of wolves; Frozen, 2013 | Source

#2. It Lacks Character Development

What hurts the credibility of Frozen the most is probably the sheer lack of character development (or relevance for that matter). The trailer is extremely misleading to that fact as well. The title and the trailer adds to the assumption that Elsa is the main character and almost as if she is the antagonist. Whether she is the protagonist or antagonist, the audience is led to believe she will be more epic and involved in the film than it actually turns out.

Who is the protagonist? By making Elsa and Anna somewhat as of equal importance, it fails to provide a primary protagonist from the two. I understand the creators interest in trying to place the importance of sisterhood above romantic relationships, but that idea is not necessarily achieved. The only time that sisterhood seems to be the front-runner in the story line is when Elsa and Anna were children, Anna's quest to bring Elsa home, and the very end when, once again, Anna is sacrificing herself to save Elsa. Although it is clear that Elsa doesn't need or want a "prince charming," we see Anna consistently falling in love at the worst possible times. There really is no ideal notion of "sisterhood" besides the beginning and the end of the film.

  1. Elsa: Here we thought she was going to be some strong, independent, female character when in reality, she spends most of the film locked in her living quarters or sulking alone in her ice-castle. She proves to be just a depressing, cynical, and ultimately, a weak woman who has spent the majority of her youth sulking in her bedroom out of fear to harm the kingdom or Anna. Why didn't she use that time to get her powers under control? Why did the creators not utilize Elsa's potential to be a phenomenal character by using her perseverance in order to go on a quest to find a solution to the curse? Elsa had huge potential to make Frozen an unforgettable tale.
  2. Anna: She appears to be the protagonist. Although naïve and hungry for her "one true love," Anna is the one who ultimately saves the day. It isn't that I don't appreciate Anna's childlike innocence, her sincere actions, and the unconditional love she has for her sister. My problem is that by making her the shining center, she is less appealing to older audiences.
  3. Olaf (see: #4)
  4. Kristoff: Although he is a loveable character, there are just so many gaps in his own storyline to the point where he is almost expendable from the movie completely! Questions as to what happened to his parents, why him and the moose are best buds, why was he raised by trolls--- are all left unanswered.
  5. The Trolls: Why? Why? Why? More pointless than Olaf, the trolls should have never even been included in the plot. Yes, they were important in understanding the curse, but they did nothing but serve as an extra (or dare I say comedic relief) in the movie. Not to mention that the song they sing is the worst of them all.

Aside from who the protagonist should be, another sloppy mishap is that there is absolutely no true villain or antagonist.There are ultimately three different "antagonists" in Frozen: Prince Hans, the Duke of Weselton, and the pack of wolves. Not even all three combined could measure up to the iconic Disney villains such as Scar from the Lion King, Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty, or Jafar from Aladdin (just to name a few).

#3. The Soundtrack

One of the most important aspects to the major success of Disney movies is the soundtrack. Whether catchy or dark, upbeat or slower, the best Disney soundtracks are those that fit with the mood and purpose to the plot. The soundtracks are the 'means to an end' in that they flow with the storyline. For instance, The Lion King opens with "The Circle of Life" which is hands down just am amazing song.

  • Other songs include "I Just Can't Wait to Be King" (foreshadowing future events), "Be Prepared" (again, foreshadowing future events/moving the plot along), etc.

The songs in Frozen are catchy, yes, but they were inconsistent.

  • The majority of the music fails to provide any plot movement.
  • The first half of the film included many songs that lacked a purpose, while the second half of the film was completely lacking in any music up until the finale.

To sum things up, the author of Dr. Bok's Evil Movie Blog stated things perfectly:

  • "Some songs in Frozen are too poppy; definitely at odds with the opening chant in the film. While the chant does give an interesting sound, the succeeding pop tunes tend to diminish it, which is why when we finally hear that chant again when Elsa finally thaws Arendelle, one can’t help but feel that the motif was underdeveloped."
  • "Frozen’s musical numbers are distracting in the sense that it distracts you from the problematic script, and the storyline."

Olaf. Frozen, 2013
Olaf. Frozen, 2013 | Source

#4: Olaf the Insufferable Snowman

Since when was Olaf dubbed the shining star of Frozen? Not only is he just a pointless come-and-go character in the film, he's only a pointless character in order to be reproduced as a plush toy sold in stores all year round. I thought winter was over, but the franchise cannot seem to "let it go."

Ultimately, Olaf serves no purpose to the plot of the film. Although the trailer seemed to highlight him as a major character, Olaf was simply just an Elsa creation from her childhood. His character completely hinders any chance of depth that the plot truly needs. When things seem to get too touchy or too serious, there he is, providing a snappy phrase that is supposed to be funny but fails miserably. What about that solo song of his? Also pointless, and the whining that he's going to end up in the Disney graveyard only makes me wish he would melt and never come back.

Don't get me wrong, Olaf is a loveable character in his own right; but he did not belong in nor truly fit in Frozen like people think he did.

What do you think? Is Frozen worth all the hype?

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        An AU where Elsa and Anna grow up to be Arendelle's classical tale of 2 long lost sisters who live in 2 different, separate, distant foster homes away from Arendelle after one traumatic childhood acci 

        6 weeks ago

        An AU where Elsa's properly raised by natural, precious human grown adult fit royal real professionals who show courtly manners in public know how to deal with the ice powers, whereas, Anna's correctly raised by human grown adult non royals/unfit royals who show wilderness instead of King Agnarr and Queen Iduna of Arendelle after one traumatic childhood accident.

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        Neither Anna nor Elsa deserve a sister on their own. 

        2 months ago

        Elsa should've been raised by canon real grown adult fit royals/professionals who know how to deal with the ice powers, whereas, Anna should've been raised by canon grown adult non royals/unfit royals instead of their own parents, Arendelle's royal monarchs.

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        Frozen Sucks 

        9 months ago

        Anna and Elsa should've came from different Disney canon princess movies instead.

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        Anna's ugly on the inside/outside anyway. 

        9 months ago

        Ever since the beginning of the movie she bugs poor Elsa from the first second of the movie. She shoves poor Elsa, and then she makes poor Elsa freeze everything accidentally and have the hardest childhood. She's not pretty, either. Her cheeks and chin look bad to me. Boo Anna. I hate her so much. I mean, her lips are just way too thin, thinner than her eyebrows even. Her nose is too low. That streak of hair is just plain old wrong. Sir Jorgenbjorgen's a better listener than the likes of that pain in the butt, Anna.

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        Snow Queen Elsa would've had telekinetic powers, like Matilda 

        9 months ago

        Snow Queen Elsa - Slender, radiant pale skin, light freckles, rosy cheeks, pink lips, long platinum blonde hair in a French braid, purple eye shadow, blue eyes

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        Choose Gerda (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen) over Anna 

        9 months ago

        The problem is her personality is annoying. She's a clueless hypocrite who makes decisions on a whim, runs of without a clue where Elsa is. "I learned not to marry someone you just met, hey, Kristoff, he's the man who I've known for a day or two, LET'S KISS!". And she also get no consequences for her stupidity. She's the prime example on how not to do a classical Disney princess, but at least Rapunzel and Moana are making some good names for themselves.

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        I'd choose Yuki no Joou (2005) over Disney's Frozen. 

        9 months ago

        Another likable Japanese anime cartoon.

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        I'd take Gerda (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen) over Anna any day. 

        9 months ago

        Jennifer Lee, Brittney Lee, and Kristen Bell screwed Anna's canon character up anyway.

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        I love Avengers Grimm (2015) 

        9 months ago

        Snow White (Avengers Grimm 2015) has ice-control powers, using them to grow icicles as weapons and to freeze people.

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        Good Snow Queens 

        9 months ago

        Elsa, Deidre from the Once Upon a Time series novel Winter's Child, and the other Snow Queen from the 2005 anime of the same name are the only three incarnations of the character to be portrayed as heroic characters.

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        I'd choose Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen over the Disney's Frozen any day. 

        9 months ago

        Princess Anna and Snow Queen Elsa of Arendelle - Ugh, oh no, not another canon sibling yin yang. Great, just what we need, another canon sibling yin yang.

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        Snow Queen Elsa Lovers/Fans/Worshippers 

        9 months ago

        I prefer to think of her as quiet, regal, and joyous in canon. I never ever even want to see Elsa being all bubbly and happy-go-lucky at all. Poor Elsa should've been a classical canon character instead of just a plot device with an ill-fitted musical number. And all that because someone scrapped the original ideas to make her look better as a heroine.

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        Related in the Adaption 

        9 months ago

        ◦ The Summer Witch is often made to be the Snow Queen's sister. In the Hallmark adaptation, the Princess and the Robber Queen are also made her sisters as well, having the four represent the four seasons.

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        The Snow Queen by Hans Christian Andersen 

        9 months ago

        Andersen met Swedish opera singer Jenny Lind in 1840, and fell in love with her, but she was not interested in him romantically (although the two became friends). According to Carole Rosen, Andersen was inspired to model the icy-hearted Snow Queen on Lind after she rejected him as a suitor. The Snow Queen was based on a woman Hans Christian Andersen personally hated for being shrewd and distant.

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        I dislike Anna and Elsa as canon sisters 

        9 months ago

        Neither Anna nor Elsa deserved no siblings on their own. In fact, neither Anna nor Elsa deserved to have each other as sisters at all.

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        I wanted a sibling-less/sister-less canon Princess Anna and a sibling-less/sister-less canon Snow Queen Elsa 

        9 months ago

        Anna and Elsa - Oh no, not another sibling canon yin yang. Great, just what we need, another canon sibling yin yang….

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        Sir Jorgenbjorgen should've been in this movie. 

        9 months ago

        Sir Jorgenbjorgen's cute.

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        Hate Plot holes 

        9 months ago

        Disney if you screw on this "possible" sequel, then you have a lot of Frozen fans to deal with. 

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        Frozen should've been different from Disney's Tangled. 

        9 months ago

        Frozen kinda gets on my nerves. It's a lot like Tangled.

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        Classic 2D animation style/technique rocks 

        9 months ago

        Disney's Bolt, Tangled, Wreck It Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia and Moana should've been classically animated because 3D CGI ruins our lives.

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        I'd love to hear Snow Queen Elsa talking in a real British accent. 

        9 months ago

        I'd rather want to hear Snow Queen Elsa speaking in a real British accent instead.

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        Canon Drools/Stinks/Sucks 

        9 months ago

        Elsa, Olaf, Marshmallow, the snowgies (Frozen Fever) and Sir Jorgenbjorgen really should've came out in classic 2D animation style.

        Elsa of Arendelle would've possessed the brown brunette hair, and hair turn would've turn back to platinum blonde back and forth non stop to no end in canon. If any/other ex-Disney animators could get together to create a more classical, full, independent remake in cel animation. If I were Jennier Lee and the other creators of Disney's Frozen, I'd let Princess/Queen Elsa of Arendelle be born to be both a normal, ordinary, brown haired brunette muggle and a magical, unordinary, abnormal, special frost, ice, snowflake platinum blonde muggle born equally in case any/other ordinary magic fearers/haters rather prefer Elsa's ordinary, normal, non magical form over Elsa's magical, unordinary, abnormal, special frost, ice snowflake form.

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        Hate Anna and Elsa as canon sisters. 

        9 months ago

        I dislike the fact that Elsa and Anna live in the same castle of Arendelle when they've barely seen each other for past thirteen years ago.

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        I hate canon Anna 

        9 months ago

        Canon would've been better off if Anna was a villain who's truly jealous of her elder sister, Elsa being the firstborn and attempts to get her revenge on her for shutting her out for past thirteen years ago.

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        Elsa The Snow Queen should've been the title instead of Frozen. 

        9 months ago

        If I were Jennifer Lee, I'd give Elsa both brown/brunette hair and ice platinum blonde hair equally.

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        I hate rock trolls. 

        9 months ago

        Those rock trolls were the reason why Elsa got scared, they recommended Elsa to be locked up to avoid any damage but they never taught her how to handle her powers correctly.

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        The Snow Queen's (1957) more memorable than Disney's Frozen 

        9 months ago

        The Snow Queen's (1957) something from my childhood. She's beautiful but most of all she's threatening. She knows exactly what she wanted and that's why I love her, even she isn't nicest person on this world...... She's just most powerful creature and she is full of charisma.

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        I wish the duke of Weselton was never ever even a canon character 

        9 months ago

        That insufferable Duke of Weselton plans to discover all of the secrets of Arendelle and kill Queen Elsa, thinking that she's a monster and a sorceress just because she has ice powers.

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        Love Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen, but hate Disney's Frozen 

        9 months ago

        I really wish Disney tried to make a straight on adaptation of 'The Snow Queen' story instead of Frozen.

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        I detest canon Frozen for what it is the way it is 

        9 months ago

        I really wish there can be a real Snow Queen adaptation one day. It is a great story that really deserves it

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        Old Classic Disney always rocks and rules, but New Modern Disney sucks and drools 

        9 months ago

        Gerda, Kai and The Snow Queen (Hans Christian Andersen) - Better than Anna and Elsa

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        Frozen's inferior to more classical Disney films 

        9 months ago

        It really felt like Hans was used as nothing at all but an excuse to bring the two so called "sisters" back together when Anna and Elsa are far much better off without each other since they're more like strangers to each other anyway.

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        Canon Stinks/Sucks 

        9 months ago

        Elsa would've been born with both brunette like her mother and platinum blonde hair equally in canon.

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        Snow Queen Elsa should've came out in canon classic 2D animation style. 

        9 months ago

        Canon would've been better off if Anna was raised as a commoner and anything else more than/but royalty.

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        I love classic animations a lot. 

        9 months ago

        Why Walt Disney never made The Snow Queen into one of his classic Disney movies?

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        Anna's inferior to any other more classical heroines/princesses 

        9 months ago

        I hate Anna and Elsa's common back story that we get in the film.

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        I don't like Anna as a canon character 

        9 months ago

        Anna is the worst character to come from Disney in years. She was unoriginal and the same old cliched female character, but just a tad annoying and stale.

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        I can't stand Anna as a canon character. 

        9 months ago

        Anna's annoyingly stupid anyway, but not Gerda (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen)

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        Thumbs up for Classic Disney, but thumbs down for Modern Disney 

        9 months ago

        It's still hard to forgive Disney for ruining our lives with ugly looking 3D CGI!

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        Elsa and Anna's sisterhood sucks 

        9 months ago

        Elsa and Anna should've grown up to be a classical tale of two long lost (means lost/absent for a long time) sisters of Arendelle in canon because they're more like strangers to each other anyway.

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        Kai and Gerda's (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen) friendship's better than Elsa and Anna's sisterhood 

        9 months ago

        I still don't get why Kai and Gerda had to be the names of two elderly servants of Arendelle.

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        More Than Just the Spare should've been kept as a canon song instead of For The First Time In Forever 

        9 months ago

        It's still tough to easily forgive Disney for cutting the song, More Than Just the Spare because it shows how Anna really feels about herself compared to Elsa.

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        Blossom's and Elsa's ice powers. 

        9 months ago

        If Blossom (The Power Puff Girls) has ice breath, then shouldn't Elsa have ice breath in canon as well, like Blossom?

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        Love 2D Traditional cel 2D animations/cartoons, but hate 3D CGI animations 

        9 months ago

        I'm sick and tired of CGI animation! I mean, what happen to the traditional animation? It has that Disney magic which made us feel good and enjoy every bit of the movie, it colors were bright and vibrant, and the emotions, the action, it all had that special feeling. Something CGI doesn't have, and never will...

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        More Than Just A Spare's better than For The First Time In Forever 

        9 months ago

        Anna: Spare, am I really just the spare

        I'm not part of the town, not born to be queen

        Just somebody hopelessly in-between

        She's the scholar, athlete, poet

        I'm the screw up, don't I know it

        But then who could ever compare

        Of course they're gonna think I'm just the spare

        Well, I won't care

        So I'm the extra button on a coat

        In case another one comes loose

        But if I have to be a button

        Why can't I be a button that's of use (oops)

        I may lack style and I may lack grace

        And once in a while I fall on my face

        But this little button deserves a place in the sky

        This button wants to fly

        Wait, buttons can't fly, it doesn't make any sense

        So I'm a rusty horseshoe hanging up

        Over somebody's old barn door

        And I'll be hanging there forever

        Just wishing the horse had one leg more

        And maybe I can't be the perfect one

        And maybe I err on the side of fun

        But horseshoes need a chance to run somewhere

        This horseshoe is more than just a spare

        Someday I'll find my thing

        A thing that's all my own

        That thing that makes me part of something

        Not just all alone

        If only all this feeling I have in my heart

        Could mean something to someone, how I'd love to play that part

        So I'm just the second-born sister

        Who most of the town ignores

        Like a button, like a horseshoe

        Like a girl who's bad at metaphors

        Maybe I don't have a magic touch

        And maybe I don't have a talent as such

        Just this heart with much too much to share

        So I'll never be the heir

        But I'm more than just the spare (sorry)

        I'm still downright mad at Disney for cutting the song, More Than Just the Spare because it shows how Anna really feels about herself compared to Elsa.

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        Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen rocks and rules, whereas, Disney's Frozen sucks and drools 

        9 months ago

        I love the original Snow Queen fairytale better than Disney's Frozen.

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        I love Arya Stark of Winter-fell, but hate Anna of Arendelle 

        9 months ago

        Arya Stark's (A Song Of Ice And Fire/Game Of Thrones) a bajillion, trillion, billion, million times more badass than that screwed up character, Anna, isn't she?

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        Elsa's canon characterization was messed up. 

        9 months ago

        How come Elsa has ice powers, whereas, Anna doesn't? 

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        Classical Disney fairytales are better than the likes of Modern Disney 

        9 months ago

        Disney, are you going to do this to all your fairy tale based films by calling them by an adjective? Ex: Tangled, Brave, Frozen (Rapunzel, The Bow and The Bear and The Snow Queen) What's Jack the Giant killer is going to be called Giant?

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        I would've easily liked Anna if she hadn't copied Rapunzel in the canon personality department 

        9 months ago

        Why you had to make Anna look like Rapunzel (Disney's Tangled), Disney?

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        Elsa and Anna should've came from two other different Disney canon princess movies. 

        9 months ago

        I would've been relived if I've gotten a canon sibling-less/sister-less Princess Anna and a canon sibling-less/sister-less Snow Queen Elsa.

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        Anna's nothing but a Rapunzel (Disney's Tangled) rip off. 

        9 months ago

        Anna even looks like a caricature of Melissa Gilbert as well!

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        I hate how ugly 3D CGI really looks. 

        9 months ago

        It would've been better off if modern 3d films were also classical 2D style as well.

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        I can't stand how ugly 3D CGI really looks. 

        9 months ago

        I love classic animated films over made that had the guts to not 3D CGI any of this at all.

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        I detest plot holes. 

        9 months ago

        Frozen's filled with unquestionable plot-holes, why's Elsa gifted with the ability to manipulate snow and ice, and the plot twist of Hans being the actual bad guy's just plain stupid.

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        Brothers Grimm's Rapunzel's superior to Disney's Rapunzel. Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen's better than Disney's Frozen 

        9 months ago

        I prefer if they kept the classical, original title that was adapted from a classical fairy tale since it's more creative than simple, boring word titles like Tangled and Frozen. It feels like they're doing a half-assed job on the title just to appeal to both genders, doesn't it? If they kept the classical, original titles like Rapunzel and The Snow Queen, then it would've been easier for me to recognize that it's a classical fairy tale.

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        Classic Disney's better than Modern Disney 

        9 months ago

        I don’t get why people act like Anna's so great. She’s boring. She doesn’t easily interest me. Anna's such an idiot. I really dislike her character. ‘we finish each other’s s-’ ‘sandWICHES’ like was that supposed to be funny? Anna was a total insult to Gerda the original heroine of the story of The Snow Queen.

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        Classical tales of long lost siblings/brothers/sisters are more interesting 

        9 months ago

        Hans would've grown up to be the long lost youngest brother of the Southern Isles in canon. Anna would've grown up to be Elsa's long lost younger sister in canon.

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        Frozen's poorly made. 

        9 months ago

        I love Elsa but why's she the only human in the movie who has magical powers, whereas, her parents and sister, Anna didn't appear to have any powers?!! 

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        I dislike confusions 

        9 months ago

        Elsa isn't even a Princess anymore since her coronation she's a freaking Snow Queen

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        Canon Sucks 

        9 months ago

        Those parents should've correctly raised Anna to be another more mature person in canon.

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        Love classic 2D animations/cartoons, but hate 3D CGI animations 

        9 months ago

        Disney really should've came up with nicer, more original ideas, and laid off ugly looking 3D CGI already.

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        Snow Queen Elsa lovers/fans/worshippers 

        9 months ago

        I'd still rather love to see Elsa in another new longer princess-y/queenly dress in Frozen 2.

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        Would've been better off if Elsa was another canon child prodigy, like Matilda 

        9 months ago

        Would've been better off if Anna grew up to be Elsa's long lost younger sister in canon.

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        Love Classic Disney, but hate Modern Disney 

        9 months ago

        Disney has to stop the stupid Hidden Villain trend into its current state of decay already

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        Love Gerda (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen), Hate Anna 

        9 months ago

        Anna's a dumb idiot whose only main goal was to find a man as opposed to reconcile with Elsa and had no reason to not leave the castle of Arendelle. And apparently wound up with someone that she was forced to love by little rock shits that are apparently ok with adultery. A guy that she barely knew for two days, had nothing in common with, insulted her, and thought his reindeer dog thing could talk back to him.  

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        Gerda (Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen) rocks and rules, whereas, Anna sucks and drool 

        9 months ago

        I found Frozen to be one of the worst Disney movies that had been ever made. I didn't like how Anna was handled in the final cut at all because she should've also been the other, classical canon sibling-less/sister-less heroine we all know/love just like Gerda from the source material's Snow Queen, but no, instead, she just had to be turned into an obnoxiously insufferable bimbo with no thought, no ambition, either, no talent, and even worse, zero canon character development. Jennifer Lee (writer and co-director) and Kristen Bell (voice actress for Anna) were responsible for making Anna the "overly awkward airhead everyone knows/loves". If Anna were to represent love and warmth, the color green doesn't easily do justice to her canon character. Green's a cool color, while it may represent life, it also represents calmness and tranquility, but the Anna we know's neither calm nor tranquil, she's the exact opposite: feisty. We should've gotten a calmer, more tranquil, less obnoxious, less insufferable, less feisty canon Anna. Pink and magenta better represents her character as her element is love and warmth to Elsa's ice and snow.

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        Classic Disney's superior to Modern Disney in every way. 

        9 months ago

        I miss those days back when Disney used to make awesome villains a lot. Disney needs to stop using a trope in their recent movies that people have been getting tired of, the twist villain, a character that gets introduced in the film and is revealed as the villain later on.

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        Any other more classical heroines/princesses are superior to the likes of that Anna in every way. 

        9 months ago

        Snow Princess/Queen Elsa would've had a pure evil, wicked, jealous canon stepmother, like Snow White and Cinderella.

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        Anna and Elsa are rather more fit to be unrelated to each other/sibling-less/sister-less 

        9 months ago

        Anna and Elsa are more like strangers to each other anyway.

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        I dislike Frozen for what it is the way it is. 

        9 months ago

        Anna was another naive Disney princess who should've been able to leave the castle of Arendelle whenever she wanted in canon. Elsa had to be locked up (bad idea in the first place).

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        Both Anna and Elsa would've remained better off sibling-less/sister-less equally in canon 

        9 months ago

        Canon would've been better off if Anna and Elsa have gotten more proper canon character development and grown into REAL more mature women.

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        Alternative Universe Over Canon 

        9 months ago

        EXTERNAL. THE BALCONY OF ARENDELLE:

        "We could easily see the village outside the castle gates which it's comprised of homes, shops, a marketplace, the docks, and the city's clock tower and the mountains, the vast wilderness landscape surrounding this kingdom of Arendelle. It's here that Arendelle's primary export—ice—is harvested. Traversing through this area could be rather dangerous, such as savage wolves lurk throughout." "Oh, man!"

        EXTERNAL. THE CASTLE TOWERS OF ARENDELLE

        "Whoever still lives here is free to hang and explore."

        EXTERNAL. THE ROOFS OF ARENDELLE

        "Whoever doesn't easily fear getting on the roof could slide down to escape. Whoever easily fears getting on the roof could rather end up injured or even killed."

        INTERIOR. THE DUNGEON OF ARENDELLE

        "This is where any criminals are held prisoner, isn't it?" "Yup." "Whoever rather prefers the large rooms hates how small this dungeon is."

        EXTERNAL. SMALL KINGDOM OF THE SOUTHERN ISLES

        The Southern Isles changed during the time Prince Hans grew up to be the long lost youngest brother of the Southern Isles away from here. "This is where Hans used to live, isn't it?" "Yup." "Hopefully, Prince Hans was correctly trained and taught how to do anything and make any other efforts to rightfully earn the throne of any other kingdom properly in case if not here at all." "Three other princes of the Southern Isles pretended that their youngest brother, Hans was invisible for past two years ago." "No wonder Hans grew up away from here." "You got that right." "After all, Hans deserved to have anything else better to do than being trapped in the shadows of his twelve older brothers." "I know, right?" "Right." "Prince Hans of the Southern Isles is twenty three." "Wonder if twelve other princes of the Southern Isles really miss their long lost youngest brother, Hans a lot?" "I wish I've known."

        INTERIOR. SMALL KINGDOM OF THE SOUTHERN ISLES

        "Hey, what's this? An old diary of Prince Hans of the Southern Isles?"

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        egnomac 

        9 months ago

        Rather than helping their daughter, Elsa to control her powers wisely, they've chosen to hide them instead which made the situation even worst.

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        Disney's Frozen's not at all a classic anyway 

        9 months ago

        I wish Ice/Snow Princess/Queen Elsa was another canon child prodigy, like Matilda Honey. I wish Elsa had telekinetic powers in canon, like Matilda as well.

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        Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen rocks and rules, whereas, Disney's Frozen sucks and drools 

        9 months ago

        Stupid Grand Pabbie should've also erased all of Elsa's true, but repressed, traumatic memories of the fateful childhood accident that evening in canon back when Elsa was eight back then, which he never did.

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        Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen's more classical than Disney's Frozen 

        9 months ago

        Disney's Frozen deserved to be far much better off without the likes of Anna and Elsa's sisterhood because Anna and Elsa are more like strangers to each other anyway.

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        Snow Queen Elsa's canon characterization should've been correctly developed/explored in the canon movie back then before 

        9 months ago

        If Grand Pabbie wiped Anna's true, but repressed memories of the life-altering accident, then how come he didn't bother to wipe Elsa's true, but repressed, traumatic memories of the fateful childhood accident as well like he should've back then in canon?! Huh?!

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        Bubbles The PowerPuff Girl 

        10 months ago

        Frozen is terrible, it's a movie about sibling rivalry, and the parents die early!!! (Bambi's Mahahahahahahaahammmm!!!!!)

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        Alvin And The Chipmunks 

        11 months ago

        I hate Disney's Frozen movie, I love Warner Bros. The Snow Queen ten trillion times more.

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        Love classic 2D animations, hate 3D CGI animations 

        13 months ago

        I really feel that Elsa was more of a classical protagonist. Elsa should be the protagonist of Frozen 2 to make up for it. I'll never ever even mind Elsa being the protagonist of Frozen 2, she deserves it after all. There's a lot to explore about Elsa since she has many hobbies and talents, and she has her insecurities. I hope I see her develop more, I strongly felt that she was underdeveloped in Frozen 1 due to her low screen time. But if Elsa's that interesting of a character, then how come they focused so much on that Anna and so little on poor Elsa? Huh? It feels like the creators of Frozen actually hated Elsa's canon character so they've given her so little screen-time as a middle-finger to any of these/those who actually wanted to learn/know more about her better. They've purposefully given poor Elsa so little screen-time just to hurtfully spite all of her biggest fandoms. I blame those creators of Frozen of making a less classical, uninteresting, boring, naive Frozen movie plot about that Anna and not taking advantage of the much better opportunity to write a much more interesting, more compelling, more classical story about Elsa herself. Those creators of Frozen should've correctly utilized Elsa's potential to be a phenomenal, classical character by using her perseverance in order to go on a quest to find a solution to the curse properly back then before. They could've at least properly fleshed her out more than ever correctly to be honest. Frozen would've been a million times better movie than ever if only it focused much more on Elsa than ever instead of that obnoxious, insufferable huge pain in the butt, Anna, Elsa's so much cooler and that Anna just ruined the whole entire Frozen canon movie and made everybody else get headaches. I just honestly wish the writers, directors, filmmakers and creators of Frozen have slowly taken more time on this whole entire Frozen canon movie patiently back then before... especially including Elsa's whole entire canon characterization/portrayal which it would've helped any of us to get to know Elsa. Then we would've gotten to know Elsa better/more than ever. They should've correctly developed Elsa's canon personality/backstory of her ice powers back then before properly. In fact, they should've let any of us know where Elsa's ice powers really came from and how was she born with them. Then her canon character development would've been there. Then we all would've seen how Elsa really develop as a canon classical character. Then Elsa would've been a better written canon classical character. Frozen could've at least been a lot, way, far much better than it is/was. Plus, Elsa The Snow Queen should've been a classical canon title instead of that rather less classical canon title, Frozen.

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        I love Snow Queen Elsa of Arendelle a lot 

        14 months ago

        It would've been rather far much better off if only Elsa and Anna also came from different Disney canon princess movies, because I hate the fact that Elsa's journey isn't the main focus at all like it deserved to be, but I especially hate the fact that it had to be Anna's. Even then, Elsa still would've gotten a ton of personality and development. It's easy to feel for Elsa because many parents can over protective when their children have.... special traits. It happens more in real life than say, not wanting to be a villain. I felt more for Elsa's freedom in Let It Go and the movie's end because we see how much of a toll isolation and rules has had on her.

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        Disney's Frozen should've always dealt with anything else better/more than only just mainly isolation 

        14 months ago

        Just because Elsa was isolated, didn't mean Anna also had to be cooped up, did it?

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        3D CGI animations ruin our lives 

        14 months ago

        The Snow Queen - More classical title

        Frozen - Less classical title

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        Love 2D classics but hate 3D CGI animations 

        14 months ago

        (To Snow Queen Elsa) Hello, beautiful.

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        Anna's nothing at all but a disgrace to classic Disney. 

        14 months ago

        I would've also easily liked Anna more too if she actually had grown out of her clumsiness, had gone outside any/other time she wanted which she could/would've been able to, been in any/other more places than only just one place, had been correctly/properly raised as anything else more than only just royalty, even as a non royal commoner, had grown up to be anything else at heart more than only just another/the second-born crown royal princess of Arendelle she should be since her childbirth but also less isolated anywhere else in the more creative, cooler, more unbeatable, more upbeat, brighter, more high-tech, better, future/futuristic canon modern day setting magical, mythical, fairytale, higher fantasy world/universe away from Arendelle wherever her heart leads without Elsa around, had any/other lessons other than only just royal crown princess lessons, created so many other more fun adventures in order to eliminate all of her other boredom, had any/other goals to achieve, had any/other real life skills/aptitudes/talents to help her develop her intelligence, her maturity, self independence, self defense and self protection, had gotten to gain this and that much real life experience from/knowledge of the whole entire outside real world/reality, had any/other paintings on the walls to talk to her too, had any patience to get to know any/other strangers first and better than ever before in order to be more careful who she really trusts, even Prince Hans of the Southern Isles himself and openly interacted with any other actual, real life people easily in canon if she was so lonely too but/which she never ever even did at all anyway, did she? It's especially all because the king of Aren-delle ordered that the gates were to be closed to in order to stop Anna from trying to escape Aren-delle only just to keep Anna trapped in the same isolation together with Elsa, so Anna couldn't easily go very far at all, could she? The fact that Elsa and Anna are just another canon sibling yin yang who were basically more like strangers growing up isolated, lonely, alone in the same castle together with each other during the separation instead of different castles without each other really bothers me the most to no end at all.

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        Elsa deserved better, more proper canon character development than ever in the first canon movie. 

        14 months ago

        After the royal couple of Aren-delle took their daughters to the rock trolls to get Anna's head healed, Grand Pabbie should've openly asked Elsa what happened the way Elsa should've told Grand Pabbie about the accident in the ballroom of Aren-delle in canon. Grand Pabbie should've also asked royal couple of Aren-delle what's the opposite of fear in canon too. What that stupid, foolish Grand Pabbie should've done back then before in canon was to also erase all of Elsa's true but repressed memories of Elsa accidentally freezing her sister, Anna's head, too, not only just erase any of Anna's true memories of Elsa's ice powers at all but maybe just healed Anna's (injury?). He could've at least properly delivered his message better than ever back then before correctly in canon. He should've openly told Elsa and her parents an act of true love can thaw a frozen heart in canon. In fact, he also should've actually been more clear with how Elsa needed to control her abilities and stopped her father the king of Aren-delle from going through with his isolation plan back then before in canon too. Plus, her parents could've at least prevented the WHOLE ENTIRE THING in order to bother helping Elsa control her ice powers back then before in canon, so her parents should've correctly encouraged/reminded/showed her how to still love, accept and embrace not only just her ice powers but also be her own true self for who she really was actually born to be with compassion by providing Elsa with more brilliant advice and better guidance as to how to keep her ice magical powers under her own control and not let them be unleashed by an accident at all which it would've helped Elsa become more opened to the others and outside world around her in canon. In fact, her parents should've sent Elsa to any/other less isolated, magical, royal opened environments where she could understand, love, accept and embrace not only just her ice powers but also be her own true self for who she really was actually born to be with compassion in canon. Then Elsa would've had any clue what to do and what she could've/would've done back then before in canon, but she also still would've had much contact, any/other greater royal crown princess lessons and better, more proper, correct training to be a queen of Aren-delle in canon. Then she could've been correctly set/learned how to take better, more proper care of/to manage a whole kingdom in canon. Then she would've been correctly taught/trained to help any of them conquer any other kingdoms properly in canon. That way, she would've always been able to live in love in canon. Then she would've been saved from living in fear in canon. Then she would've always been able to master her abilities with lots of practice and patience all the/other time in canon so she would've had a lot full, higher control of her ice powers in canon. Then she would've still had any fun with her ice powers in canon. Then she would've often used her ice powers as magical, special gifted, talented, skillful aptitudes frequently more than ever in canon. Then she would've gotten better at using her ice powers in canon. Then she would've learned any/other modicums of self-control in canon. Then she would've actually learnt how to use her ice for battle other than only just controlling them with her emotions so she would've had true fighting experience in canon. In fact, she would've had more proper, correct, better weapon training in canon. Then she would've used them to grow icicles as weapons and to freeze any of her irredeemable enemies/foes/opponents in canon. Then she would've used them in combat in canon. Then she would've used all this/that time to get her powers under control in canon. Then Elsa would've always known any/other ways to learn how to control/use her ice powers all the/other time in canon. Then she would've done something/anything/everything much more spectacular/a whole lot, way, far much more elaborate, impressive other than only just turning the palace of Aren-delle into an ice skating rink all the/other time in canon. Then she would've been more empowered than ever in canon. In fact, even though after/if the accident happened, Elsa still would've always been able to freely use her powers to make herself any/other snow friends, any/other way more servants, including ice giants, any/other winter animals/magical, mythical creatures like a giant ice-eagle which are easily used to cold temperature, any/other snow dancers and any/other snow bees to keep her company in order to avoid her friendless loneliness in canon. Elsa would've obviously had much better, more creative/productive uses for her supernatural/magical abilities (such as building public art, even setting up any/other villages for any/other living snowmen/people such as Olaf, his friends and his relatives) in canon. Then she would've had any/other experience with ice architecture in canon. Then she would've had ice breath in canon like Blossom (The PowerPuff Girls). The less she had to keep her ice powers secrets for a long time the better. Then she would've been saved from the isolation in canon. Then Elsa would've been far much more of a dramatic classical canon character and anything else more than only just a past thirteenth year anxious kicked puppy all the time in canon. Then she would've freely lived a better canon life than ever before. In fact, she would've freely lived a better canon life than isolation. Then she would've been more imaginative than ever in canon. Then Elsa herself could've been more very compelling than ever before. Then she would've known how her magic actually works in canon! Then she would've at least solved and undone any of her problems in canon. Then she would've trusted herself in canon. Then she would've developed any other more sighs of maturities, self independence, self protection and self defense in canon. Then she would've learned anything else/everything else in canon. Then she would've had/gone through better, correct, more proper canon character development. In fact, she would've had better, correct, more proper canon character development. Then she would've grown as a classical canon character. Then she would've been better off belonging/living/growing up/being raised to be less isolated, less lonely in a whole entire real fairytale/higher fantasy world that would easily accept her for who she really was actually born to be. The less she had to be too caught up in her own misguidance/insecurities/fears/suspicions/paranoia/concerns/worries/pessimism/anxieties/nervousness/stress for a long time the better. The less she had to just sit in her bedroom all day the better.

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        Disney's Frozen really should've came out in canon classic cel hand drawn traditional 2D animation/cartoon style 

        14 months ago

        I blame those creators of Frozen of making a less classical, uninteresting, boring, naive Frozen movie plot about that Anna and not taking advantage of the much better opportunity to write a much more interesting, more compelling, more classical story about Elsa herself. Those creators of Frozen should've correctly utilized Elsa's potential to be a phenomenal, classical character by using her perseverance in order to go on a quest to find a solution to the curse properly back then before. Frozen would've been a million times better movie than ever if only it focused much more on Elsa than ever instead of that obnoxious, insufferable huge pain in the butt, Anna, Elsa's so much cooler and that Anna just ruined the whole entire Frozen canon movie and made everybody else get headaches. I just honestly wish the writers, directors, filmmakers and creators of Frozen have slowly taken more time on this whole entire Frozen canon movie patiently back then before... especially including Elsa's whole entire canon characterization/portrayal which it would've helped any of us to get to know Elsa. Then we would've gotten to know Elsa better/more than ever. They should've correctly developed Elsa's canon personality/backstory of her ice powers back then before properly. In fact, they should've let any of us know where Elsa's ice powers really came from and how was she born with them. Then her canon character development would've been there. Then we all would've seen how Elsa really develop as a canon classical character. Then Elsa would've been a better written canon classical character. Frozen could've at least been a lot, way, far much better than it is/was. Plus, Elsa The Snow Queen should've been a classical canon title instead of that rather less classical canon title, Frozen.

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        Any/other reasons why Elsa The Snow Queen should've had her own classical film solo that really focuses on her: 

        21 months ago

        Her ice powers!

        Her classical hot beauty!

        Her introversion!

        Her more proper ladylike/princess-y/queenly manners!

        She's a misunderstood outcast who deserves better and nothing worse at all.

        She didn't have enough screen time at all

        Frozen was not enough Elsa at all.

        Elsa's canon characterization wasn't given enough to do at all like it should've back then before.

        She didn't have enough time in the movie at all.

        She should've always gotten to use her ice powers.

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        Jeremy Hopkins 

        2 years ago

        Just recently watched Frozen for the first time. My thoughts immediately after watching it were, "That's the most poorly written Disney animation I have ever seen."

        I can't hardly believe how sloppy the script was for Frozen. What, exactly, happened to cause things to go so wrong and for the film to be released anyway?

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        Any/other reasons why Elsa deserve to be much more known about so far 

        2 years ago

        Explanations for Elsa's powers

        Elsa's depression should've been fully shown back then before, not only just being told.

        Elsa's personality characterization should've been less screwed up in the film back then before.

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        Anything/else/any/other ways to make Frozen a better Disney film than ever 

        3 years ago

        She's clumsy and awkward (which I admit even I fell in love with) but, besides that, all she has is empty character development. There isn't much substance to any of these characters, and they actually just seem to be pieces with irrelevant details for making a stereotypical "everyone is happy" movie. But their parents, why is there such an attention drawn to their parents in the beginning of the film if they are only going to be killed off to "fuel" the plot? As an audience member, I didn't feel any real sadness for their death and I didn't feel any real connection. Having Elsa locked up for almost ten years or so was just plain weird. There was nothing that justified it besides the fact that she was dangerous, there were no ifs ands or buts. Her being locked away felt like an easy way out for the creators to changeover  from childhood to present day. And, beyond that, Arendelle is shown to be a harmonious kingdom, so it makes no sense that Anna would not be allowed to leave the castle and walk amongst the city. If magic exists in this world, why is Elsa locked away? Why was it a secret? Did something happen between those who used magic and those who didn't? Was magic seen as something negative or unknown? I am left with no idea, and this brings us back to weak world building that justifies very little of the events of the movie.

         

        Reason 6: The trolls.

        Why the trolls? Why are there trolls? Why does Kristoff need to be connected to the trolls? I'm sorry, but I don't understand the trolls. Yes, they are cute, and kids love them, but their assistance feels just as awkward as many of the other characters. They play a part in the romantic subplot (I guess), but their world and much more is left to be questioned. The subplot just makes the trolls feel even more forced and superfluous as the big Hans reveal, and I don't want to get into all of that again.

         

        Reason 7: The movie is not as revolutionary about the LGBT  community as every one seems to huff about.

        There is a character in this movie who owns a trading post and sauna. His name is Oaken, and he won't hesitate to throw you out of his humble establishment. Every one has been ranting and raving about this character is the epitome of LGBT acceptance in this movie. I, for one, think not. Oaken says hello to his family, and the screen pans over to reveal many small boys and one rather bigger man. Is this Oaken's brother? Oldest son? Husband or significant other? I have no idea, and I didn't catch that scene the first time I saw it. The fact that it is so short and wouldn't have been noticed by many viewers until someone spilled the beans online, this wouldn't have been commonly recognized. This doesn't build any sort of "modern progression" to the LGBT community. I personally think it is intriguing and would like to assume it is his significant other, but it doesn't outwardly build any sort of radical progression that everyone is hyping about.

         

        Reason 8: The music.

        I do argue sometimes that the music is one of the only good things about the film, and that's only considering some of the songs at that."Let it Go" and "First Time in Forever" are strong, compelling showtunes that actually move the plot forward, as songs in a musical should. I will admit, though, when I first head "Let it Go" in theaters, I was waiting for Katy Perry's "Fireworks" to start after the first of let it go's. Let it goooo, let it gooo, like the fourth of juuuuuly. The build up seemed so common and so overdone, but hey, it's catchy right? That's what modern music and films are all about. Now on the other hand, let's talk about the rest of the soundtrack. Songs such as "Fixer-Upper" and "Love is an Open Door," while good, solid songs, do relatively nothing for the plot and could be omitted without sacrificing anything. "In Summer" is almost a gag song, very jokey and has no real reason to be in the movie-- I actually could not recall that song even if I tried my hardest. "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman" has become quite popular and you hear parodies of that specific song all of the time, but it is literally the same chorus repeated with little to no transition three times. And the trolls, good god why are there the trolls in this movie if they hold no substantial meaning or use? Even the dialogue is second-rate and does nothing to immerse the characters into the world around them, don't get me started on that again.

         

        The resulting product of Frozen is nothing but two hours of mediocrity pretending to be the best film of the decade. Yes, there are fun and quirky characters that I myself adore, and some of the songs are pleasant and rather catchy. This adds to the appeal to the movie, but what detracts from it is too big for me to ignore. Ultimately, Frozen does nothing but fuel my love of quirkiness alongside of leaving a weird taste in my mouth and will encourage Disney to continue making mediocre movies because they will sell and they will make a considerable profit from it.

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        Anything/else/any/other ways to make Frozen a better Disney film than ever 

        3 years ago

        Eight problems I have with Frozen

        It's been little over a year, so most of us have seen it, or at least have had "Let It Go' stuck in our heads on purpose, or treacherously against our will. Even so, with all the build up that led to the release of Frozen and even the hype afterwards leaves me a little agitated. No, it's not the Frozen themed everything in the supermarket (because seriously, when Shrek came out he was on ketchup bottles), or even the countless toys, garments, or parodies of every song found on the sound track. Things like that don't bug me, but what did was the entire movie itself. It is praised as this amazing and progressive movie (some argue as it being  the most progressive movie Disney ever), but my expectations are left half filled after my first viewing. I know Disney is trying to shake up their movies and try out new things (who doesn't want to be hip and modern?) but I don't think Frozen is a proper representation of Disney s best. Now, I'm not trying to be the Grinch this holiday season, but hear me out.

        8 reasons that (somewhat) justify what I mean:

        Reason 1: Frozen is a film that, first off, feels half done to me.

        I'm not sure if they rushed the production or not, but that feeling came across to me immediately when I saw it in theaters. Essentially, this movie suffers from an experiential dilemma throughout the entire two or so hours that it runs. Elsa and Anna live in a thriving and beautiful kingdom, but we barely see any of it's vast elegance. The surrounding areas are only softly touched upon when we meet the trolls, and when the land is seemingly thrashed by a polar vortex of their own, everything is white and led from one place to the next. The world building in this movie is to be left to the viewers imagination, which leaves many unanswered questions for the audience in regards to the magic, charm, and lore of the land. It is inplyed that these trolls know everything there is to know about the magic and secrets of the land, but it does not explain how Elsa received her powers in the first place. For me, that leaves a pretty big unanswered question that I hope will not be sloppily explained and shoved into a second film. Alongside that, Elsa being the main magician and magic wielder of the film is an interesting choice, to say the least, and would have worked a lot better and made more sense if the world and it's history was built up more.

         

        Reason 2: From a technical standpoint, the animation is sub par.

        My first viewing of the movie was in a little movie theater, so I speculated that this could have added to what I thought about the animation. But after seeing it a few more times on different screens and in different formats, I knew I was right the first time I saw it. The characters movements in some scenes are so robotic and not lifelike, which bothered me incredibly every time I watched the movie. The textures and effects in Frozen were nothing to write home about and the movements of some of the characters just made it more and more obvious that the movie was a rushed project. There's essentially no diversity in character design and the facial structures of all the women are practically identical (yes, so progressive). Elsa, Anna, their mother, even Rapunzel from a completely different movie all look the same. I mean, I know they're related (except Rapunzel), but that is still completely weak on their part. There's no power of silhouette in the film, something that is absolutely crucial in animated films and games, which makes Anna and Elsa blend in with everyone else and the background. They don't have much substance to how they look except hair color and voice. Even their eyes are the same color. Elsa is blonde with blue eyes and Anna is brunette with blue eyes (which is insanely weird, I honest expected her to have green eyes). It's too weird. They are blank characters. They do not stand out. They are, in all honesty, quite bland.

         

        Reason 3: The plot is all over the place.

        Please don't say I'm the only one who thinks so, because it's pretty obvious to the average viewer. There is no clear antagonist until the final arc of the movie, which feels like the hugest cop out. We sit there, watching this movie and we think, is it the Duke of Weaselton? No, and he actually has no a true purpose  in the movie whatsoever. He had full potential to have more character development in order to bring more to the story, but drastically fell short. In what way does he further the plot? He doesn't, plain and simple, but what is then the reasoning behind giving him such an emphasis? I really don't know, I can't even answer that one for you. Now that we know it's not him, is Elsa supposed to be the antagonist? Through out the film, the audience is constantly being given conflicting views as to whether or not we are supposed to sympathize with her or dislike her character, and the audience never really delivered any answers, again, until the final arc of the film. Which, needless to say, is ironic because that is when the real antagonist shows his face: Hans.

         

        Reason 4: Hans.

        I just don't like his character whatsoever, at any point of the movie.  Since he is introduced as the antagonist pretty much near the end of the movie, it makes Hans' development as a villain feel rushed, awkward, and very unnatural. Such a sudden heel-faced turn from charming benevolent prince to cold-blooded evil killer feels wrong on so many levels, and considering there was no foreshadowing or dramatic irony leading up to the reveal, it comes as a shock to even the most watchful moviegoers. Though I will admit, it was a thought in my head as I watched the movie that Hans might be "that guy." During my first viewing I was so confused through out the story and the movie was blundering its way willy nilly. I was thinking it was Hans before it was suggested as so (which was not suggested until we were blatantly told). I was sadly expecting an amateur rabbit-from-a-hat trick from this movie, which offended and annoyed the people I was watching it with. I would tell them I bet it was Hans, he had to be evil! and so did Weaselton! (one thing I was definitely wrong about). But the audience I was sharing this with didn't want to hear that, they didn't believe it, and that is what the filmmakers wanted. They didn't want anybody to catch the bummer that this movie could have been.  Beyond that and the shock response that "everyone" had, there is no reason to hate Hans or any character in this movie, which subsequently makes Hans one of the most ineffective villains of all time. The audience only hates him because he abruptly betrayed the trust that was willingly given to him the first half of the film. Yes, he wants to take the throne for his own and kill everyone off (so typical), but wouldn't that insensitivity be more effective if it were presented as such from the beginning of the movie? Give the viewers hints and clues that he is not what he seems, making the reveal of his plan much more suspenseful. Additionally, if it were addressed  from the beginning, a large amount of the aimless plotless wandering that plagued most of the first three-quarters of the movie would be practically non-existent. That would have made the film much shorter and would cause more thoughtful planning to have gone, consequently pushing the release date back and that's not how movies are made nowadays.

         

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        Any/other ways to make Frozen a better Disney film than ever 

        3 years ago

        What I mean: It's a film that, essentially suffers from an existential crisis throughout the entire two hours it runs. There's no better, stronger world building whatsoever, leaving too many unanswered questions the audience in regards to the magic and lore of the land. It's inferred the trolls know everything there is to know about magic, but it didn't explain how Elsa recieved her powers in the first place, leaving a pretty big unanswered question. Also, the decision to take a fantasy race usually isolated from magic's as the main sage magicians was an ...interesting choice, and would have worked out a bit better if the world was built up more. The plot is all over the place, with there being no clear antagonist until the final arc of the movie. Is the Duke of Weaselton supposed to be the antagonist? No, and he honestly doesn't even belong in the movie: in what way does this character move forward the plot? He doesn't, so why is he given such emphasis? Is Elsa supposed to be the antagonist? Through the film the audience is constantly being given conflicting views as to whether or not we are supposed to sympathsize with her or hate her, and we're never given our answer until the final arc of the movie, which is, ironically, when the real antagonist show his face: Hans. Since he is introduced as he antagonist in the final arc, it makes Hans' development as a villain feel rushed and unnatural. Such a sudden heel-face turn from charming benevolent prince to cold-blooded killer feels wrong, and considering there was no foreshadowing or dramatic irony leading up the reveal, it comes as a shock to even the most watchful moviegoers. Beyond the shock response, there is no reason for the audience to hate Hans, making him an ineffective villain all in all. The audience only hates him because he betrayed the trust that was willingly given in the first half of the film. Yes, he wants to usurp the throne and kill everyone off, but wouldn't that incentive be more effective if it were presented as such from the beginning of the movie? Give the viewers hints and clues that he is not what he seems, making the reveal of his plan much more suspenseful. Additionally, if it were addressed from the beginning, a large amount of the aimless plotless wandering that plagued most of the first three-quarters of the movie would be practically non-existant. In addition, the shock factor response wears off eventually; the impact of his betrayal means less and less to the audience each time they watch it. Part of the reason of the weakness and confusion in the beginning also stems from the fact that the movie is trying to juggle too many characters. Many named characters are completely unneeded and did not need to steal screentime (and by extension, valuble character development) from the main characters (Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, and I guess Hans). And the lack of character development is bad. Really bad. Anna doesn't feel like a real person, even by Disney standards. Elsa is a bit more believable, but her "development" is rushed and inferred instead of shown to the audience as it should be. Why was there such an emphasis on the parents in the beginning if they were only going to be killed off for plot fuel? And as an audience member, I did not feel any sadness for their death or for how Anna and Elsa were grieving. Having Elsa locked in her room for upmost of ten years was just...weird. There was absolutely nothing that justified it, making the isolation feel like a cheap way out for the writers to transition from childhood to adulthood. And beyond that, Arendelle is shown to be a peaceful kingdom, so it makes no sense that Anna would not be allowed to leave the castle and walk amongst the city. If magic exists in this world, why was Elsa locked away? Why was it a secret? All of these questions stem from weak worldbuilding that justifies very little of the events of the movie. There are so many unanswered questions that rise up from what happens inbetween childhood and adulthood. Is there a puppet monarch? Was magic seen as something negative or unknown? Why the trolls. Why the trolls. I'm sorry I just do not understand the trolls. The romantic subplot again ties into making the trolls feel even more forced and unneeded and the Hans reveal stale, I don't need to go into this. From a technically standpoint, the animation is subpar compared to its contempararies. Rise of the Guardians, a movie made a year before Frozen, had better ice effects. The particle effects and textures were nothing to write home about and the numerous clipping issues are clear evidence that the final product was rushed. The character design is the biggest complaint everyone has heard the most, but, Jesus Christ, oh my god it's bad. There's virtually no variation in character design. The facial structure of all the women are practically identical. Elsa, Anna, their mother, even Rapunzel all look 100% identical. Perhaps that wouldn't be such a problem if their body types were the same as well. There's no power of silouette in the film, something that is absolutely crucial to animated film, making Anna and Elsa blend together not only in the film, but in the industry itself. They do not stand out. They are blank and bland. The music is the only good thing, and that's only considering some songs. "Let it Go" and "First Time in Forever" are strong, powerhouse showtunes that actually move the plot forward, as songs in a musical should, but "Fixer-Upper" and "Love is an Open Door," while good, solid songs, do relatively nothing for the plot can could be omitted without sacrificing anything. "In Summer" is a total joke song that literally fades into nothing--I could not recall the tune if I tried, and "Do You Wanna Build a Snowman?" has a lot of potential but is, esentially, the same chorus repeated with little to no transition three times. It doesn't help that the song is also the most awkward contrived timeskip in the history of awkward contrived timeskips, again because it is never explained why Elsa is locked in her room at all. And the trolls and the--oh god. Please, all artists and writers, do NOT overlook the importance of worldbuilding. Even the dialogue is mediocre and does nothing to immerse the characters into the world around them. The resulting product is nothing but two hours of mediocrity masquerading as the best film of the decade in commercialization and ticket sales, but ultimately does nothing but leave a bad taste in the audience's mouth and will encourage Disney to continue making mediocre movies because they know they will sell and sell well.

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        Anything/else would make Frozen a better Disney film than ever so far 

        3 years ago

        Anna constantly feeling overshadowed by Elsa

        Elsa having a whole lot, way, far more controllable, tamer, more stable, safer ice, snow magical superpowers

        Less isolated Elsa/Elsa being fully saved from living in the long time forced isolation.

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        Any/any other reasons why the actual creators/writers of Frozen should've saved Elsa from living in the forced isolation back then before 

        3 years ago

        Well written

        Proper character development

        Stronger, better world building

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        Any reasons and any other reasons why Elsa deserve a longer screen time than ever too so far anyway. 

        3 years ago

        The thing that I will have the hardest time forgiving in this film is the criminally underdeveloped character of Elsa.  Even with her shorter screentime, she was by far the most interesting character in the cast.  Her powers, her pathos, even her design intrigue us and draw us in.  If you’re going to make the Snow Queen into a protagonist, this was the way to do it. But goddamnit why was she so backseated?  In the film’s beginning, I understood that we’d see less of her.  It made sense with her storyline.  After she fled and built her ice palace was the point in the film where I was genuinely the most excited.  It was so satisfying to see that painfully subdued character let loose and belt it all out, brimming with confidence.  It was such an open door for transformation, perhaps even for her to go a little dark and have her sister bring her back out of it later.  Nothing like that happened.  The next time we see Elsa after her big solo, the fear instantly comes back.  The confidence disappears.  She freaks out, and once Anna is chased away, Elsa is attacked, manipulated, imprisoned, and totally crushed by the story that she SHOULD have had the greatest influence over.  I remember wondering at several points after that horrid troll song, “Where the hell is Elsa, what happened to her— oh right in a cell”. Hell she was totally subdued by a man who literally had no physical power over her, who only needed to speak a few paltry lies to turn her into a heap on the ground.  Poor Elsa had agency only for a few minutes in this film before it was wrenched away again, and I would wish for a sequel to Frozen if only to see more of the woman who sang this song on the screen where she belongs.

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        Any reasons and any other reasons why Elsa's more preferable and more favorable than ever so far anyway 

        3 years ago

        So people have a big problem of when the older sister, Elsa has a problem she runs or hides from it. That’s understandable, although no one ever taught her how to face your problems, in fact it’s not until Anna freezes to death that she finally learns to face her fears head on. Speaking of fear, that is Elsa’s main adversary in the movie and her main roadblock to getting back with Anna. Elsa allows her fear to take control of her life, so much so that she didn’t even attend her parents’ funeral. Elsa also seems to suffer from Haphephobia, the fear of being touched. Notice throughout the movie how Elsa barely touches anybody or lets people touch her, it’s her fear of harming others that makes her go into the mountains and create an ice palace. Speaking of which, I wanted to talk about Elsa’s breakout song Let It Go. And for God’s sake, it ain’t about Elsa coming out of the closet, its nowhere in the movie, cut that shit out! Elsa is finally free to use her powers and have as much fun as she wants, but she’s still running away from her problems. And when Anna tells Elsa that Arendelle is trapped in an eternal winter, she thinks she was foolish to run away from her problems. It takes her younger sister dying for her to realize hiding and running may not be the best idea. This in no way makes Elsa a weak character however; her pain and anguish make her more human and more relatable to the audience. Since Elsa and Anna are the driving force of the movie, not only do they have to be likeable, but also relatable as well, so I don’t understand these complaints of Anna being a bitch or Elsa not being all that interesting or other types of bullshit.

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        Anything and anything else would make Frozen a real better Disney movie than ever 

        3 years ago

        I can’t believe this is happening.  Why in the Hell are we bothering with this stupid review?  Whatever, anyway, that’s right, this article deserved a full-out CAPS assault to get your attention, and also to get more hits on Google.  Sometimes we do odd things around here.  We’re sure you all feel cool being ultra underground, learning about bands like Pollution, black metal from countries you never knew existed, movies most people are afraid to watch, it’s all just too cool.  So why in the Hell are we bothering with some pop-culture trash like Frozen?  That’s part of the beauty of being so elite and legit underground.  Part of the reason we got here in the first place is we got sick of the lack of substance and creativity above, and learning what that stuff really means down here, well, it enables us to completely trash pop-culture when it needs it.  That means yes, we are trashing this film.  We’re going to trash this piece of garbage in the most underground way possible, with a top ten list.

        So, what are we all about here?  My wife and I, after hearing all the rave reviews from friends, some of whom we trusted until now, decided to take a quick Redbox trip and see what it was all about.  We saw Tangled a few years ago, and honestly it was a pretty good film and sometimes self-aware.  Groundbreaking?  No.  Something we’d watch again?  Sure, maybe, it was okay, and that’s fine.  Expected the same out of Frozen, but we received the agony of watching one of the worst films ever made.  We’re talking Waterishtarworldgate level here.  Yep, said it, this film sucks something awful like that portmanteau.  Here are the ten reasons why, in no particular order so that calling it a “top” list makes as much sense as calling the film “good.”  We hate it so bad around here it didn’t even deserve to be considered a media review, because it hints at the greater problems that Disney still has as a corporation interested in worldwide dominance of your pathetic mind.  But we had to stick to format.

         

        1. Ruined the source content.

        Sure, probably everyone knows that Frozen was based on Hans Christian Andersen’s genius The Snow Queen, but do you really know how far it diverged from the plot?  It’s a lot, like a really lot.  Adaptation is fine, but with such an ingenious story on so many levels, it hurts to see it so watered-down to appease a mass audience of fools.  The central factor here is it’s a fairy tale.  Fairy tales, by nature, require the audience to suspend reality, so if you mix too much of the “real” in there it degrades the idea of it all.  Hint, that’s exactly what Frozen does with The Snow Queen.  Luckily for true film fans out there, the Soviets, of all people, made a faithful, animated version of it in 1957, which you can watch for free right here.

        2. Original altered to stock drivel.

        This continues our first point.  Frozen in adapting, or better to say completely altering the original story, has simply utilized stock ideas from the Disney profit-princess concept to make another set of birthday party napkins for you toss in the trash, covered with cake that was so delicately designed with Elsa on the top of it.  That’s right, keep eating, go ahead, EAT ALL OF IT.  Really, it’s pathetic what they did.  Princess, guy to fall in love with who’s really not a good guy, other guy you know she’ll actually fall in love with, can it get more obvious?  There’s nothing wrong with sticking to a format, but an obvious format does not a good movie make, so stop right there.  It’s the most typical story ever told, without a lick of creativity.  If you make it obvious, you need to be very clever with the development. Some people think this was what was actually clever about it, but we’ll address that at the end.

        3. Wooden characters.

        Even for stock ideas of good/evil you need to have some attachments and dislike for characters.  Classic can be good, but only if you retain these sensations with proper development, which Frozen does not.  As soon as you see Kristoff, that rugged yo ho mountain man with his trusty sidekick elk you know immediately he’s going to be the main love interest.  He’s just there for a moment and you say, “yep, there’s that guy.”  The most obvious case of poor character focus is between Elsa and Anna, the two sisters.  So Elsa has this power that’s potentially dangerous, fine.  The movie then cuts to a song to explain their years growing together/apart, but because of how it’s pieced together, with no real explanation of certain things (we’ll get to this), and it’s done within a scant minute or so, the viewer is left unconnected to the core issues of the film.  Their parents die with no real meaning, because the tragedy isn’t developed.  Other characters are merely there for their stock roles and aren’t given enough space to evolve.  Will there, oh will there be a cute, lovable, comedy-relief creature of some sort who’s so lovably stupid you just have to buy the stuffed toy after?  YEP.  Is it really explained WTF he’s doing there in the first place?  NOPE.  SHUT UP TOY GET IN MY ARMS NOW HERE IS ALL MY MONEY.  Let’s get to that next.

        4. Sidekick bullshit.

        Really, honestly, does there have to be a God damn sidekick character in every frikken Disney film?  Why?  Why do you keep doing this?  So Elsa and Anna made a snowman or two in their youth, thus the main song this stupid movie is known for, and later he’s wandering around because he’s magical now and whatever.  So?  Does he really have to be there?  Sure, they make him have a little importance later in the plot, but the fact that you could do that with someone else and remove him from the rest of the film with no difference other than a removal of trite comedy says a lot.  We don’t need to have something to laugh at all the time, just once, please, can’t you just tell a story for a story instead of littering it with stupid comedy?  Sometimes serious is the better option.

        5. Poor plot development.

        The Snow Queen was an awesome story, you can read the entire thing in the link posted earlier.  Frozen‘s big problem is lots of critical plot development is scrunched into a two-minute song, merely assumed, or comes and goes so it quickly it loses effect.  When the parents die, you really don’t care.  They barely say more than two sentences in the movie anyway, so when their ship goes down it means nothing because the sisters forget about it so easily.  Actually, they don’t, but it’s all condensed into a song and you lose that sense of reality.  Elsa’s power is another example.  So she has this great power to control ice that’s potentially dangerous.  Where did it come from?  Why is it just assumed?  What is it’s purpose in the greater schema of this fantasy world?  Why are we given no details as to what it actually means?  Who in the living Hell would actually fall in love with a prince they literally just met and who 100% of the audience already knows is going to not be the one chosen at the end?  If it’s that obvious to a five-year old (true story), perhaps the characters themselves are complete idiots, and that explains the rest of it.  Don’t worry, we’ll be getting to that bit if you think we don’t get it, keep reading.

        6. Random “wait WTF” shit.

        Frozen has a ton of things merely assumed.  It goes along with our last point, but here’s a perfect example of it, the rock trolls.  Okay, cool looking, trolls, rocks, kind of like Rock Lords but not awesome, we’ll go with that.  Wait, why are they here?  Who are they exactly?  Why do the parents go to them for help in the opening scenes?  What function do they have in this world?  They’re just tossed right in there like the balls they resemble and you’re expected to simply consume their presence.  Sorry but no.  Or how about this.  So Elsa decides to leave her kingdom because she fears her powers, okay, sure.  Well, wait no.  First off, if love is the key to “curing” her, wouldn’t she have figured that out earlier?  “NO,” you say in CAPS.  But children have pure love, so umm, wouldn’t she have, you know, FIGURED IT THE HELL OUT EARLIER?  And why did they wipe Anna’s memories of what happened?  What’s the point of that?

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